0:00 Out of Cycle Update and it feels, it feels so good to be rugged. So bad allergies are doing a number on me and I'm reflecting on better times. Better times in this case is roughly 2010. That was like a peak period for me. Not life in general, but one specific situation and one specific person that I encountered. And I won't bore this. I'll. I'll save that for the the other podcast casual talk. But and that's going to be my inspiration for casual talks. I think it's worth and maybe she'll hear it because I think this is not somebody I dated or was going to date, but very inspirational person that I was reflecting about and got a boom and aha light went off.

0:53 I think it's worth discussing, but I've got two things I'm covering this weekend. Welcome or welcome back CryptoTalk FM. My name is Leister. I'm your host. Two things I want to cover. First, we got a letter from a listener. Second, something I stumbled on as a result of looking for something completely different and I busted out laughing. Now I am going to talk about the letter from the listener first because I want to address it even though it's a topic I really don't want to talk about. And I'll discuss later why I don't want to talk about it. But I'm going to because we are a podcast for the people. When I say the people, I don't mean the consensus. I mean the people. The good people, the non marks, the smart people, the people who avoid where they can getting ripped off. The people who look at common sense. They're. They're sponges. They want to hear the truth. Those are the people, okay? The consensus are the ones who are. Who are dumb.

1:54 You know, if you're one of those, I'm not. This is not for them. This is for the smart people. So I. I welcome you and I embrace you and I celebrate you and I thank you. Okay, so let's get that one first because that one is. Some people care about that more than my other topic. User CLW Ascension77 says quote First, I very much appreciate your assistance and concern for investors as a whole. Your knowledge and experience is top notch. That said, I would like to get your take on Block Dag when referring to the buyback, I do not understand what seems like a contradiction. Why buy back coins yet continue to sell more at a low price? Also, as I'm sure you've mentioned before, why does that price continue to undercut the price of any Exchange that listed Block bag. One more part that's confusing. Setting the false ad about a penny per coin in a text from block that by the way, that was also email quote they say buy more and receive 2 cents per coin. So buy more. Then they pay out more and at a higher rate just as any buyback price than any purchase price from the pre sale since the beginning. If you read my comment, thank you in advance. I look forward to more content or really lessons in the future. Just don't stop because we need you and people like you.

3:13 So first of all, to CLW Ascension if he hears this thing or they hear this. Thank you for the mentioned question and statements. I appreciate it. Let me address his tail end part. When we say we, the problem is there's multiple we's. Okay? There's the people and we are a podcast for the people. CryptoTalk FM. The people are the ones are. Anybody who's listened to the show for an extended period of time has heard me say it repeatedly. We exist online to help people. That's why we exist. We are not a shiller. We're not a hyper, we're not a marketer. We're not. We have never ever promoted anything. We had Hodl Token on the show, the CEO that rhymes because he wanted the smoke. He said we want to be transparent. We want to chat it out. Feel free to listen to that one we had for eth jets, which shut down at the time. He said, this looks like it's something we can do. We believe we can do it. And I directly asked him about you got competition, you got these things.

4:26 What happened? I have no idea other than their legal told them some of the things they were trying to do were high risk and the leader left the project and left it hanging high and dry. That was one where I kept. I adopted this mantra. Every cryptocurrency seems like it's the same where they're just taking a risk because there is no regulation. It's the wa waist and so they assume it's fine. It's like just, you know, do it right and apologize later. That's what it felt like all crypto's doing. Because that's what it feels like all crypto's doing. It's harder to detect what's really a scam.

5:08 So the summary of what I'm saying is there are people who embrace what I just said. They're actively trying to hear what I'm saying. They're actively trying to hear what I sense, which is that all cryptos Essentially do the same thing. The hard part is detecting what's really a scam. It's actually not that hard if you could ignore the FOMO of it. The easy thing is, do they do what they say they're going to do? It is the only measure that matters. Okay, then on the other side of we, you have the consensus, as I describe it, based on a prior interaction, there's army and there's family.

5:54 And I have an episode, an older episode. Go back and check it out. About army versus family in Army. They're going to war because somebody says to do it. It may not be the right thing to do. It may not be ethical, it may not be moral, it may not even be budgeted. But you're just doing it because somebody said, the commander in chief said, these leaders said charge. And you're just following blindly like good little soldiers. That's an army, okay? A family, a proper family. A nuclear family. A proper family. A family. We want to protect it, we want to keep it safe. We want to make sure it's taken care of, it's fed, it's sheltered from harm. And the man of the house, if they're a man, they're going to do anything they can to protect their family, even against and army, they're going to make sure their family is really well situated regardless of what's going out there. If those soldiers try to step up in here, they're going to have to get through me to get to my kid or my woman.

7:02 That's a man, that's a family, and that's a man protecting family. And I said, you cannot be both, because the man protecting family is doing it for defensive reasons and protective reasons. They're not just going to war because some idiot says that it's the right thing to do. So we have to be careful, is what I'm saying about saying we. Because there's multiple we's. If you're on the army side, if your mind. And you guys know what I'm talking about, if you're on the side that says, we got to go to charge, we got a sue lawsuit, whatever. If you're on that side, you and I are not on the same side.

7:43 You're like, how does that make any sense? Because thus far, nothing of what I see rises to that level. We throw around lawsuit too easy. We are a legality, questionable society. I go off the burden. What is the burden we're talking about when we try to do lawsuits? And this is a personal topic for me, and I'm Deviating a bit from the question because I think it's important. If somebody threatens, somebody actively threatens, I'm going to beat the shit out of you. The threat is not illegal. If I go and beat the shit out of somebody, it's assault. The burden has now, Rosen, if I call somebody names, you might be surprised in California out here they have what's called anti slap slapping that basically says. It essentially says you can't bring this kind of a case just because something somebody said like that's not what it is. If somebody insulted you'd hurt your feelings. That's not. It doesn't rise because what they're trying to do is they're trying to make sure that free speech is protected because that's what it should be. However, in New York they actually have a law, and I forget the name off top, but there's a law in there that effectively allows weak minded people who get their feelings hurt online to try to bring a lawsuit. Now you might say you got to get thrown up, but the problem is you're wasting money, you're wasting taxpayer money, you're wasting time. You're dragging people into court that's affecting potentially their jobs. They might, they might be impacted by the fact the drug in there.

9:22 But the worst part of that is it's called chilling effect. We are saying your free speech doesn't fucking matter. If you hurt this guy's feelings, I can drag your ass to court and hurt your reputation irreparably. It's not consistent state to state. Some states adopted the anti S slap, some states did not. Ironically, New York is one of those states who adopted the anti the anti S slap. Well how is it then that they have this other law that allows somebody to sue for getting their feelings hurt when they got the anti slap? Because New York says they can breed the lawsuit, that's fine and it'll get tossed. What. Which is what you think should happen. Why is that an efficient measure? What should happen is when you fill out that paper and you walk in that court, that receptionist or whatever at the front desk should laugh at your face, crumple it up and toss it in the trash. Tell you to get the hell out of here and get some balls. They don't do that.

10:17 So the net result of what I just described, and it was important context is, is that we have frivolous lawsuits. Look it up. A frivolous lawsuit is one where we are allowed to burden the legal system with something we know is going to get thrown out. Because what we're trying to do is damage reputations. We're not trying to get justice. We're not trying to seek justice. We're not trying to get paid. We're not trying to do anything. But otherwise damage reputations, harm people irreparably. That's what we try to do. We're using it as an attack vector. And because of this, we're burdening the legal system, which has an impact on your taxes. So I have a personal pet peeve with frivolous lawsuits. A frivolous lawsuit, by definition, is one that you know is going to get tossed. You know, it'll get tossed under something, but you're forcing somebody to go through the rigor and fight the system because all these lawyers have to get paid. So when I hear the army refer to a bunch of legal action they'd like to take, I have not yet seen something that rises to that level. I've heard there's tons of evidence. It's a slam dunk case. I see nothing of. I see smoke. I don't see fire. I'd love to see fire. I'm talking fire. I'm talking something I can easily see, like the Crystal Gato situation. Crystal Gado. Coffeezilla gathered copious stuff. Coffee Zilla couldn't put the guy away. He sent it to sec. They didn't do anything about it. Delgado turned himself in. And then after he turned himself in, he said, well, we got to really think about Ponzi. It. What about intent? If his. And he's. He's trying to say, I was building this because I thought I could make sure people get paid. I thought I could make it work.

12:08 Think about it. You're right. You're. You're on a fine line. It goes directly to clw Ascension's question. He's describing a situation where he built what is essentially a Ponzi by the definition of the law books. But he thought he could sustain it. He thought he could do enough to keep it strong. Bernie Madoff had the same response. They know it's against some law that says you cannot do these things. They know you can't do these things by the law, in the books. They're trying actively because of ego. Really, I can make this work. They just made off. Screwed up. This guy screwed up. The original Ponzi, he screwed up. They didn't know how to do it. I know how to do it. Here's how we do it, right? And then it won't be a problem because nobody's out.

13:01 This is the flaw of block Dag overall you're dealing with. You clearly can tell because some of you have been on the don't ama's. You've heard him talk. You're dealing with people who have that same ego. He said it himself. Persistence beats resistance. He is a person coded to believe he can succeed despite having failed. He doesn't accept accept failure. He just keeps moving and says, at some point I'm going to win and I'm going to keep on doing it until I win. That's what I said. I sense is happening here. I sense you're dealing with a person who thinks they've got the magic equation to make it work.

13:43 Not that there's a blatant malicious intent because it's not clear. Intent is not clearly negative. I don't see it. I don't think anybody else really does. You're seeing so much incompetence. I said you either. Like I said to the Saitama people, you either scammers or you're blistering idiots. It turned out they were scammers, right? Because they were caught out in telescope directly. Artificially pumping a token. Artificially pumping it and then dumping out of it. I don't think that Saitama they would have gotten nailed if they hadn't dumped off people. I believe that if they had just done the artificial pump piece. Only just the artificial pump piece. They didn't dump major bags. Like let's say, okay, I'll just take enough to pay my monthly expenses or something. If they didn't get greedy because all of them got greedy, I believe the Saitama thing would have still been a thing. And if they didn't promise that mask that failed during the failed November 13, 2021 Vegas event. If they didn't make lofty promises about something that they were going to deliver that did deliver.

14:53 If they didn't dump off the project on the back end. If they didn't lie repeatedly. Like if they were doing things where they're clearly trying to enrich themselves off the backs of main investors. I believe all it was was the pump of a meme, which is what it started as. I don't think they'd been in prison. That's my belief. I can't know for sure. With Block Dag then and this buyback and the questions. And they're valid questions. It's all about if you go off what? If you accept what I'm trying to get across, which is you're dealing with a person who thinks they can solve it. They're thinking they can make it succeed.

15:34 But I. I'm pretty sure everybody listening to me Here at CryptoTalk FM sees the same thing I see, which is a bunch of I'm going to try this, try throw shit against the wall, hoping it sticks. Right? You're doing a whole bunch of stuff, hoping it sticks. So what then is the thought process of a buyback with an iffy price strategy where you still have a quote utility pre sale that doesn't really give you the coins you're supposed to have because of a quote compression you. And then you have a live swap which allegedly is going to give you the tokens directly, but then you also have exchanges that they undercut and they block deposits on, and then a claim process that's a buggy nightmare and a staking process that's a buggy nightmare and a casino that's half baked. And by the way, they hadn't even mentioned it on last day of May, so they're not really heavily promoting it there.

16:23 You've got to be sensing what I'm sensing, which is we're just going to throw against the wall and hoping something sticks, sticks, and then once we finally get something that sticks, then we'll figure other stuff out. But right now we're trying to just do this piece. That's what I think the buyback is. I firmly believe that the buyback is nothing more than okay. And it's just to clarify, because I'm wrapping up this half of it just to clarify the intent and the spirit of the buyback. The word buyback is misleading. The intent and the spirit of the buyback is predicated around the FOMO crowd, not the real pre sale crowd. Anybody. There's multiple people to set it. If you put in pre sale, you're not going to be able to do the buyback.

17:11 If you are, you're not going to get a lot, you're not going to be able to do a lot. But most of them people pre sale are not going to be able to do this. It's catered to the FOMO crowd, so if you look at what it's doing, they've shifted the dates, which is another problem. In summary, it's like if you fomoed in at the last minute. So let's say you did that stupid utility pre sale. This is why I say it's all about the dashboard stuff. If you fomoed into the utility presale, which means you didn't get anything yet, you just gave us money for something, we'll buy them back from you at this Price which fluctuates. Some things say a penny, some things say two cents. Don't go off of the email or the text message communication go off what the dashboard says.

17:58 Some people confirm that it seems like that number is stable. So don't go off of again what the email or some people get text don't go off that. You're like, that doesn't make any sense. I agree with you. But remember what this same team did with webot when they went live. They had webot promoted saying it's one of the exchanges after webot went live and they open up deposits and they open up trades. They sent an email saying, just a reminder, they're scams. We're not on webot. Which was a lie. That was a lie. It was a flat out lie to get people to avoid WebOT when WebOT was legit and they promoted it their email and text.

18:39 I don't know if it's a different group or, or that's just. They're just trying to. I have no idea. Ignore the text and email. Now in a court of law, we should use the email because it's part of the marketing deal. I think one of the things that's a risk of trying to rely on it is that one of the leaders, the main leader of the consensus is on record having hacked the mailing list for those that purchased minors and spammed out after the fact to. To get them to go to this other thing that they're doing. This is the army now I describe. So somehow they got access to the marketing list and they were sending spam, which is a violation of can spam. But what it means is you can't really trust that mailing campaign because if it was vulnerable to where it was able to get hacked, you can't trust that it's actually the blocked act team. That's the reason I don't like that that idiot did that. Because all you did was strengthen the case that that marketing might have been compromised and it might not have been the team themselves and that whatever's doing is doing that to create distrust and dissension within the community. I can't say it is what happened. I'm saying the fact that I know for 100% confirmed fact he got access to the mailing list and he was sending messages to people on that list. The only way he would have got that list is he hacked it was. Or he got it from Liza or Turner. It's the only way he could have because he wasn't an insider by his own admission, I guess, that opens option number four, is that he was an insider and he lied. That's also an option. All four options are a problem because it gives strength back to Block Dag in defense of whatever lawsuit.

20:19 This is why the problem, the army is a problem because you're dealing with people that don't know how to go to war. They're dumb. They're stupid. So when the Block Deck team does things like this, that truly undercut their market. In this buyback deal, you got these people over here that are not helping the situation because they are so desperate, because they put more money than they can afford to lose. They're doing things that make it harder to hold Black Dag accountable. And I want you to understand what I have been saying, Ken, countless months. You cannot just go to war without a plan, and you cannot launch a project without a plan.

21:00 You're dealing with two sides that don't have a plan. The Block Deck side doesn't have a plan. They have a vision, they don't have a plan. There's a difference. A plan is something you can execute. There's nothing executed on Block Deck. Nick would say, we have a blockchain, you have a blockchain. And I'll say that it has to be an Ethereum fork, because if it was not an Ethereum fork, your wallet address would not be the ERC 20. It must be an Ethereum fork. And Trust Wallet won't even recognize it. Even if you add it custom, you still can't send from Trust Wallet. That means it's not being recognized as truly an independent chain like it should have done. Now, the team could fix that, but you no longer have a team because allegedly Jeremy Harkness left roughly three to four months ago.

21:48 So it looks like it's Nick flying solo. I don't know if they outsourced part of it, but it looks like it's Nick flying solo. He's not technical. All I'm suggesting, given everything I just described, you've got a person who has a vision. They're throwing against the wall, hoping it sticks. They're putting stuff out there, hoping that people adopt and buy in and do something and eventually something's going to work out. You're losing people. Josh Sack was sacked, you know. Harkness apparently is gone. Collage. He came in, he. We. I don't think. I think we saw him on one call, and that was about it. So now there's not allegedly a team, it's a running solo type deal. The don't ama annoying voice lady who sucks as a host. And then meanwhile, you got the army who don't know what they're doing and they're damaging a case with their actions that are inappropriate. Now, it could have just been that leader running rogue. I don't know that. But Turner went rogue. So maybe he was inspired by Turner and decided he would just go rogue like Turner did. I don't know.

22:50 All I'm saying is that army has made it very difficult for anybody to make a legal case separately. I see just a bunch of people in this case, two people who are just trying. They're just throwing out there and hoping something sticks. What's the end game then? If the FOMO crowd, they saw, okay, well, geez, I put, there are people online, they're like, Yeah, I put $100, they got 3 billion coins and I'm telling them, you don't have 3 billion. It's fake, it's false, it's not true. All that buybacks really doing, all it's really doing is letting you get some of your money back. If you were part of that FOMO crowd and it's post, I think June 3rd or something, if you just got in and you don't like what's happening, you can then do the buyback. You're not even going to get allegedly paid out until October, so that means you're still waiting.

23:44 Well, why would they do the October? They put up what allegedly are liquidity wallets. They're Tron based wallets. There's now eight of them. There's four specifically for this buyback. Why would they put that out there? They're trying to show that there's money available. We can't prove they own the wallets. We assume they do. We can't prove it. But the fact what they're doing is they're trying to prove that they actually have money available. And I think the total sum between the two, because I think that's like, I don't know how much it was. It's like, I think the total is like 50, 60 million dollars or whatever in Tron. So if that's true, let's say they got that. What that also does is it defrays the narrative that there's no money.

24:28 Okay. But it also opens questions. If 400 million was raised in pre sale, how is that all this left over? I would argue and have done that they did not raise 400 million. I would argue they raised probably half of that and they borrowed the rest of it. And that what you See is a portion of the 200 million that I assume that they made. We know they were paying people. We know that staff was getting paid. We don't know how much money total. Liza would have that number. I didn't hear that she divulged it, but she might have told it to the idiot privately. I don't know that.

25:10 The point is that people were paid. We know from Marius Bach they were paid for at least 11 months. We can rough estimate, okay, if you got people that are paid at least $100,000 a year, quote, and they were paid for roughly about a year, you can kind of come up with some numbers. We don't know totally how many people were there. We don't know how much they paid for like the, the events and the hackathons and the travel and the all offices. We don't know all these other tertiary numbers. All we know is that there are no minors in people's hands. DAG Tech was down. As of I last checked, I couldn't even get to the freaking site, which is the first time that's happened. Hopefully they're just resetting something, but as of right now, it's not working.

25:50 That was one of the nodes. Can't get to the site, can't get to his Explorer, so we don't know what's happening there. They hadn't updated the GitHub in a while with some of the bugs that were reported where you couldn't safely. Mine on Windows correctly. Mine on Windows. So that was the one avenue, like, if you like, Nick would go there to their Explorer because it was more current compared to their own, which is a weird thing. Like there's just like everything I see screams. These are just. People don't know what they're doing. The army don't know what they're doing. You're just a bunch of people don't know what they're doing. And everybody's just reacting. They're just reacting. They're just doing shit. No plan. No plan on either side. And as a result, it's creating nervousness and sketchiness. I ran the numbers.

26:33 This is my wrap up of this piece. I ran the numbers. Most people in this deal, there's no way they have more than a million coins. It's. It's not. It's mathematically impossible. If, if I go off the top, I think it's the top 40 or 50 wallets. There's no way the vast. Because if, because if the count of people who hold this is over 150 grand, which is what they said. Hundred thousand people wallets. If that's true, that's the key qualifier. If that's true, there's no way the vast majority of those people hold more than a million coins.

27:14 It's not possible. They might have them locked up in the thing. Claims have been open. Okay. You could always claim if you were pre sell prior. They just staggered out and then there's a section of them that are cliffed. So that's a year and then there's a rolling. Even with that, Even with that, most cannot be holding more than a million coins. I say this because one of the wallets that I've got because I bought on exchanges after it went on on webot. One of the wallets I have, according to what I see, it's got to be top 50. If not top 50, it's 50 to 100. It's somewhere in that bracket. It's got to be.

27:55 It's certainly 50 to 100. I don't know exactly where it falls, but it's got to be. How can that be? Because there's not a lot of money invested in that wallet. There's no, there's not significant amounts in that wallet at all. How can it be that then I can put a slim amount of money in the damn thing and there's like I'm top 50. How can that possibly be easy? There are people who bought on exchanges. There's the t wallets, there's the various system wallets, there's various whatever wallets. But most of the people are not. They either didn't claim or they did just didn't have a lot. That's. So then why would this goes to the buyback? Why would the team not support people going to the exchange to buy?

28:51 Because if that supply is out there, like some of those wallets might be exchange. Right. If those are out there, if they're already out there, why would they not tell people the exchanges are there? Go and get them. Why would they do these live swaps and utility pre sales and buyback things? And why do they still want people to come to the site? They said it. They want them inside the ecosystem. What good does that do if you can't get a significant of them in your wallet? Because if they're just locked in there doing something, no, they're not actually supporting the network at all.

29:33 You have to have, you have to have free market trading. You cannot have a consolidated compressed, damaged network as you do. It's got to be open free. It's got to be because the volume that really matters is not gas. That's the other flaw of this. It's not gas. The volume that really matters is, you see significant movement in and out of exchanges. That's what matters. Because that's what the charts look for. They're looking for open market trades not locked in as they're doing. Locked in as you're doing would work if you had a dex or you were on a dex, I should say pancake swap, unit swap, simple swap, whatever. You don't.

30:22 Because you don't. You're not leveraging. And so they've talked about, we want to get access to this liquidity flow in. You already have it, you already have it. There's already exchanges there. All you had to do was promote going there to buy them and say, that's where you need to go, don't, don't come here, you need to go there. Then you build reasons to have them, you build reasons to hold them, which means you fix your staking. I said, if they had just done what Libero had started doing, but those are idiots. I thought we'd had a better product. Here we are. So in summary to the question why.

31:02 I see they're throwing shit against the wall, hoping it sticks and I see that there, they put something out there that said if, if you're a fomo, so I'm talking late, so if you were prior to June, ignore that buyback. It doesn't apply to you. It really doesn't. Don't even do that direct send crap. Please don't, please don't. Because all they're going to do if you direct send, I guarantee you all they're going to do is fire sell those on the site and just keep fire selling and undercutting the free market. That's why people shouldn't send them. You should hold them if you believe in it. And I had this argument with somebody, well, I bought on Life Swap. I didn't get them. Why are you going there? Go to the exchange. If you want them, go to the exchange, get them and sit on them. If that's what you want. Why are you going to the site? There's countless people complaining.

31:52 That's the reason it keeps happening. That's the reason they keep doing this stuff. People are, why do they keep doing these pre sales and stuff? Because people keep falling for it. You can't have a mark without marketing. That's why I use the term marks. These are marks. If you're falling for that same thing over and over again, you're not doing research to see countless people complaining and you just keep doing it like hamsters on the wheel. They're going to keep doing it. Things that work, they're going to keep doing it. Everybody else is watching like geez why do they keep doing it? Understand, because people keep falling for it. That doesn't make it a scam. It makes it shady, it makes it a problem.

32:32 Doesn't yet make it a scam because they keep choosing to do it despite having another avenue that they could just go buy from the exchange. So what can you do? What's your part of this? I'm one voice and unfortunately that army, they don't share my voice. They never have, they never will. My voice has been consistent. If you want it, buy from the exchange and sit on it or trade it because at points it's going to peeking down and peeking down and you could use that to drive profit. You can do longs and shorts and things to drive profit to get your money back. That should be your minimum standard. I want to get my money back that I put in the pre sale. Ignore the lock coins, they don't matter. I put $50 in the thing. I need to find a way to make $50 however I do it.

33:22 If you go to the exchange and you buy low and the shit peaks, which that's going to do, you can then sell, get your 50 bucks back and then ride it. When it goes back down, you can buy back in, sit on it, wait for it to ride and take more profit. Or once your whole made whole, you can then just stack a bag and assume it's going to go somewhere or sell out of it because you got your money back. Ignore the pre sell, it doesn't matter. But the problem is I'm one voice folks. I'm one voice. I can't do that alone. You have to do your part. Anyone listening that cares about this garbage. You have to tell people to stop buying from the site. You have to tell people to stop reacting to the site. You have to tell people to stop reacting to the email unless that says it's on this exchange. You could deposit, withdraw and trade. That's all that should matter to you.

34:17 And you should tell people that later if they happen to show up with something that makes a utility out of those coins. Now you can start talking about other ways to interact with the site. Under no circumstances should you send them coins. Under no circumstances should you buy from their site directly because there's no reason the exchanges are there. Interact with the exchanges. You have to Spread that message. I can't do it alone and the army is going to fight it. But the army cannot stop the exchange side that's already out there. They can stop the new ones. They can't stop the ones that are already out there. So that means that at some point the exchanges are going to run out of supply. That's going to cause a crunch, that's going to cause a price. Run these guys on their site, they're going to keep undercutting the market.

35:04 They're gonna keep harming the market. The way you beat them is you still buy on the exchanges. You don't fall for that price because you're not gonna get those coins. I'm one voice. It's not gonna change unless all of you do your part. You've got to get people to stop buying from the site. I'm not intelliscam if you are, that's an outlet. You've got to spread the message to get them to stop interacting with the site for the purposes of buys and sells. Tell them to stop. Whether it's Reddit, whether it's CoinMarketCap, whether it's X, whether it's Facebook, whether it's LinkedIn, whether it's Twitch, whether it's TikTok, I don't care. You have to do your part. You have to get people to stop interacting with the site for the purposes of buys and sales. I would argue that includes Turbo, which I think is crap.

35:49 It's not going to change if multiple of you. This is now where I refer to as family. Family is a defensive multiple that are that you have to be that you have to do a part two because remember, it affects you if you don't. Now let's close up because I've been going for a while, but it was important and I wanted to make sure I hopefully fully answered the question. But let's close up with this garbage that was brought to my attention and I'm laughing at it and I'm going to caveat. I am, I am telling you to avoid it. I'm not telling you to go to it, don't go to this. Avoid it. But I laughed at it.

36:30 Someone took and they went to AI and they told AI I want you to copy the style of this block dag.network website and I want you to create a new website that does basically the same thing as and it's blockdug Cloud. Once again, do not directly interact with this site. Okay? It's trying to go there and look at it. Don't interact it don't connect your wallet, et cetera. This is completely, from what I can tell, it's completely fake. And I don't know if it's a parody or a blatant scam or somebody that's trying to build it to be something. It says it's the Binance Smart chain. It can only connect to the Binance Smart chain, but it has the same kind of imagery on the front. It's got the countdowns, it's got flash rounds, it's got extra tonus rounds, it's got access passes and the whole thing that Block Dag was doing. So again, I couldn't tell if this was something where they were trying. They even have the. The two bit and coin. Coin W that fell out.

37:33 This again, if I didn't know better, I would swear it's a parody. Like somebody's trying to make fun of Block Dag and all their garbage. But there's. There's enough here where I'm wondering if somebody was on the Binance Smart chain because this happened before a legit token would show up or what we thought was the legit token would show up. And then on the Binance Smart chain, somebody would create a copy, literally a carbon copy. This was a big thing in 2021. So I don't know if there. If there's planning to be something of this block dug capital where they're going to turn it into something out. Think so? I. I doubt it. But I gotta laugh because the site, the look and feel of the site is absolutely freaking hilarious.

38:14 Absolutely hilarious. There is a dashboard, like on the back end, I have a throwaway wallet. There's a dashboard. And again, this is where I was questioning is this real or something? Because it's got bdc. It talks about a minting engine, it talks about a burn stream. This is. It's clearly AI. I even know what AI tool they used to do it. And I know what they did. They said copy this exact look and feel. Just take the same deal and build something that does this. The leaderboard. They have a leaderboard. It's the same exact wallet, Same exact dollar amount as Block dax. That's how I know they just said copy it over. But what I'm not sure is if it's a placeholder or something else for whatever it is they're trying to do that. I don't know. There's no minimum to buy things. There's a maximum, but there's no minimum.

39:00 So I'm not. I'm saying that I don't know what this is. I wish I did, but I don't know what it is other than a parody. So don't. I would suggest don't interact with it. Do not interact with it. Don't touch it, don't. Don't talk with it, don't do anything. Because if it turns out that it is truly a scam, I don't want you to be ripped off or lose all your stuff is what I'm saying. I am going to go through it because again, it's a throwaway wallet. I don't really care. I'm gonna go through it and just try to see what it. What does or doesn't work. But I'm telling you, don't, because it's a strong risk that even if it's, let's say it's not a blatant scam, but it's incomplete or something, that there could be, you know, some sort of malicious code or something that is part of the wallet connect where you wouldn't know it, whereas I'm insulated from that because my wallet is. It's just a throwaway wallet. It doesn't mean anything anyway. That's block, Doug, with a. With a hilarious front end, at least.

40:02 And you're dealing with. You're dealing with such outlaw. Like, that's. I keep using that term, but that's what it is. It's outlaw. It's just. It's so bad that you got this where there's throwing against the wall, hoping it sticks. You got exchanges they don't want people to use for some weird reason. You got an army don't know what they're doing and can't create a case because their idiot leader did a bunch of stuff that damages the said case that they were trying to do. Why. How can I not use the term outlaw? That's literally what it is. It's outlaw. It's. It's outlaw mud show nonsense. That's what it is.

40:47 And so with the buyback, it's yet another outlaw function. It's a. It's a. There's nothing here. There's nothing there. There's no. It's. It's for FOMO people and it's not worth it because those people, they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. They should just bought on the exchange. If that's what you wanted. They should have bought on the exchanges. I can only describe it as a lesson learned. You got to take it as shit. I gambled and I lost. And take it as a lesson learned. Because even if somebody tries to do something legal, it's. You're, you're damaging the case because of this vigilante nonsense these people are doing. And it's not helping matters. You're. You're helping him do what he's doing.

41:29 Some people are just sitting back watching. That's what I'm doing. I'm watching from it, from side. I've covered some of these things where it's like, yeah, there's this, but that happened. There's always an excuse that this happened. But this over here, that's what this is. Everything's got an excuse, everything's got an explanation. It's just stupid. All of it's stupid. So minimum I can say is avoid the site, please. For buying and selling. Avoid the fucking site. Stop buying and selling to the site. It makes no sense to do it when there are exchanges there. It makes no sense. Stop doing it. You have to communicate to people. I'm one voice. If people don't do that, it's going to keep happening. If you create a supply crunch on the exchanges, the price is going to move accordingly.

42:15 FOMO will then kick in if people focus on the exchanges. The worst that would happen is that the team starts block, you know, blacklisting wallets. I mean, I guess they could do that's entirely possible. It doesn't behoove them to do it. But if they did do it now you can strengthen your legal case because now you're creating a funds constriction for no reason other than the price went up. That's, that comes close to scam. That's. That's like honeypot behavior, right? So now you have a strong case. That case is only as good as the consensus. Not acting like a bunch of killer bees and being logical about their approach and what it is that I'm proposing. I'm saying that the only way you can really test this out of whether they are trying to take your money or not, everybody that wants to buy would have to go to the exchange regardless of its price. They would have to go to the exchanges. They would have to create a supply crunch on the exchanges, which is going to cause price increase because people are. Anybody that does sell is going to sell at profit, that's going to run up price.

43:20 Then you see, is there a major dump? Is that coming from a whale or is that coming from the team like you? Now, by way of the free market transactions, you're able to put together a case about what's happening if wallets get blacklisted. It's a straight slam dunk, in my opinion. Outlaw mud show nonsense just.