Ledger and #Trezor Scramble to Constrict Supply Chains in Response To #Ledger Breach
Ledger and Trezor Scramble to Constrict Supply Chains in Response To Ledger Breach
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00:01 - Intro and Market Overview
01:07 - Bitcoin and Ethereum Price Trends
02:19 - The Broken Four-Year Cycle Theory
03:53 - Hardware Wallets: How They Really Work
05:28 - Dedicated Device Strategy for Crypto Safety
06:59 - Ledger/Trezor Supply Chain Hack Revealed
08:46 - Chip Implants and Signal Blocking Laws
09:26 - Modded Chips Origin and Security Bypass
10:50 - P7 Dark Sword iOS Malware Attack
14:02 - Mitigating the Malware Risk
15:38 - Closing Thoughts on Device Security
16:00 - Garbage Projects and Diverse Portfolios
17:52 - Caller Comments on Shiller Accountability
20:00 - Understanding Shiller Motivations and Referrals
22:19 - Precious Metals Predictions and Credibility
24:54 - Why the Host Doesn't Monetize the Show
27:41 - Show Philosophy and Straight Coverage
29:32 - 2028 Outlook: Banking Restrictions and Goldbacks
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Welcome to Crypto Talk Radio, the podcast for everyday investors like you. Visit us on the web@CryptoTalkRadio.net and now here's your host, Leister.
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Thank you for that, Bailey. And welcome everybody out there in Crypto Talk radio found@cryptotalkradio.net Good afternoon. We are going to be talking about breaches and hacks and all things salacious in today's episode. Very little news but there were some big bits that I do want to focus on in my attempt to try to keep people safe because it occurred to me that there may be a lot of Apple users out there.
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Not computer, because some people hate computers. I'm talking iPhones and on, you know, your mobile what and we'll talk about that. Just lends credibility why I don't do those things. But it's important for me to share the word, do my part best I can simplify where I can. So that'll be the focus of the episode. I have a little update on the garbage at the tail end of the episode but I want to focus on the good stuff first.
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Coinmarketcap.com will zoom out to the month chart starting with Bitcoin showing a sideward trend.
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Does not appear to be an upward trend. Does not appear to be a downward trend. That sideward trend, I just made that up. Sideward trend currently hovering around the $83,000 mark. People expected to go higher and it's not going higher and people don't really know exactly what's going on. It' a couple people saying this. It's up and down and up and down and up and down. Yes, that's what it's been for a long time. That's what I said it was going to be. I didn't see what some people were seeing. I don't know why it's doing what it's doing but it is. We can look at Ethereum though and get some hints. Ethereum is same side where trend but Ethereum looks weak. Ethereum does not look strong, does not look like it's an upward at all.
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It was and it started declining. It's possible. Don't know for sure but it's possible that there's some sellout behavior but just not significant enough to cause runs or anything. But we do want to keep an eye on both Ethereum and Bitcoin for the foreseeable as well as all the other ones. That should give us some hints as to where we go overall industry wide and of course all the turmoil with the government and you know, the bombing that happened to Riyadh and w, you know, it's, it's, it's world on the world stage. A lot of those will have impacts. I said this was like last year.
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The cycle has been broken. The four year cycle, you hear from YouTubers has been broken. It no longer exists. It's not there. Right. We have right now is the normal quote. I say normal seeing that we don't see outrageous price jumps and we don't see outrageous drops. This is normal as in stable, steady state with no movement. And some people are sketchy about it because they're expecting another run up, you know, because they stacked a bunch. We were smart. You stacked a bunch of bitcoin when it was like 12,000 bucks after the poof hair did his thing. But those people now are waiting for another run up and they're not getting it, you know, to be 10x from any of those. And they're not getting it. They're frustrated and I get it. But what we're seeing is what's more normal with respect to the price movement for the larger cryptos, the bitcoins and the ethereums of the world. This is normal for them. That also tells you where their rough ceiling is likely to be.
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I would speculate, and this is me speculating, I would speculate that a lot of this is because most of the people that want bitcoin already have it. I would speculate that most of the people that want it don't plan to sell it. I would speculate that some of the ETF and some of the big institutionals holding so much of it limits its movement potential. I would speculate the mining decree decrease and everything else has part play. All speculation. I'm saying I predicted that what we were seeing in terms of some of these large like microstrategy stacking major bags might actually be to the detriment of some of these not knowing for sure. But that was my theory. Time will still tell exactly where everything goes.
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Two security bits. They're going to be the bulk of my episode. First we're going to talk about ledger and to a lesser degree Trezor. These of course the hardware crypto wallets. You've been told for countless years that the hardware wallets are where you want to go. You don't want to do software wallets, you don't want to do mobile wallets, you want to do hardware wallets. For those that don't know how most hardware wallets work.
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I actually had, I still have it somewhere. I don't know what the heck I did with it. I had a treasure. I have a treasure somewhere.
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I stopped using it because I. I felt it was stupid to me. I thought, that's stupid. But I had Trezor Wallet and I was playing around with it. I had a couple of bits. I actually had some trons still left in there that I tracked down and transferred out that I had completely forgotten about. But the Trezor Wallet, its intent is that that device itself creates what it creates. You use whatever device, whether that computer or your mobile phone, to then interact with it. If you need to do trades or you need to see balances beyond what the little small screen will show. That's the thought of it. That's why I thought it was stupid. Because you're not really storing it on the device. That's not what happens. You're still storing your stuff on the blockchain at the end of the day, the blockchain, what tracks your balance?
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The device cannot keep up to date with the balances without Internet access. That means it needs your phone or it needs your computer. Because the vast majority of these hardware wallets do not have their own Internet connections. So they depend on a secondary device to do the function. At that point, you could do a phone to do the same thing. You just have to be smart about the phone. But because we move to this world of telling you that your phone should do everything, your phone should be a camera, your phone should be a flashlight, your phone should be a magnifying glass. We.
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No, no. Because what all that does is increase risk. We'll talk about that here in a second. But all it does is increase risk.
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The best way to do this if you're going to do it, is to have a dedicated mobile device.
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A little piddly nonsense plan, or just wi fi maybe also you care about, but a little piddly small little phone that you can buy on the cheap and all it does is your cryptocurrency. You don't browse with it, you don't do email with it, you don't text with it, you don't do anything other than it. That's all it is. You literally delete every other app from it and just have your whatever wallet you want to use, whether that's trust or, you know, made a mask garbage or whatever wallet you want to use, but that the mobile device is dedicated purpose. All it does is this. So if you're wise, you would try to find one that doesn't have a camera front or back. And I know that's hard. But you know, I'm saying you don't want anything, you don't want to do anything other than this one function because you're helping to try to isolate from, from the disruption. I'm going to be talking about here in a second.
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I'm giving you something to think about. If you're sharing your phone and all these functions, including cryptocurrency wallet, you are putting yourself at risk. I know they advocate you do that, I'm saying, and, and obviously convenience. But I'm telling you, you're putting yourself at risk. So be mindful and be careful about what that means. Well, the ledger situation, what happened is that ledger, this is a little while ago ledger did some, I, they found some situations and problems with their physical wallets, the hardware wallets from distribution. So they sell through resellers. What they found was that in a certain select, it wasn't like widespread, but a certain select number of these. It appeared like the hardware had been compromised or something within the hardware been compromised. They have technologies that are designed to ensure the accuracy and the validity and certified that has not been tampered with. That apparently didn't work because they noticed that some of these wallets, the crypto was being redirected, it was actually being taken out of the base. So it had to be able to get access to the private key, which is what it was doing. Then it was shipping it off. And what they determined when they did some testing, basically it was just there's some sort of deal where it was this, whatever is inside the hardware that affected these folks was essentially just. It was just shipping stuff out of there and out of there.
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The only way it was able to do that, the reason I prefaced it, the only way was able to do that is because it was using a connection to the mobile phone.
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But in these cases, the interesting part is somebody had put in a physical and actual physical device chip inside of it that had its own mobile connection, which was an LTE mobile connection dedicated to itself, meaning that the hardware device could function, communicate, did not need to have the connection to your mobile device. And nobody knew it at the time. The purchaser didn't know it. Nobody knew that was happening.
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You might be surprised if this is in the United States. Most locations ban you from blocking those signals. You can't do like a Faraday cage or anything to cut it off. Let's say you did detect, hey, I'm paranoid, I don't trust it. So I want to cut off any potential for this thing. To send or transmit signals. It's actually against the law to do that. Believe it or not, if you're in the U.S. which is stupid. So if you wanted to isolate your house and say, nothing can communicate outside of the house except for my controlled Internet access, you can't. It's actually against the law. Blocked signals.
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It's an FCC deal. Look it up.
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So in this case, this dude, when they looked and they saw, hey, wait a minute, what the heck is going on here? Why is this there? These apparently originated where they were found. They originated in Japan.
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So the theory is it's kind of like the, you know, the bootleg devices that they'll do. Like you'll see bootleg iPhones coming out of China and whatnot.
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Or the chips, you know, how they used to chip consoles, or sometimes they'll do like modified Nintendo switches, that kind of thing. Where they've got these manufacturing brains that are creating these compromises. This is what they think was happening, that some. They just went to some of these normal modders they're called, to create these chips and then give Internet access to hardware wallets that otherwise wouldn't. But you wouldn't know it's there and you don't know what it's doing. And it's behind the scenes communicating. And it was still able to bypass the security measures that Trezor had put in place. So it's a double whammy. First, it's able to bypass the security.
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Second, it's able to do Internet when it's not supposed to, and the customer didn't know it. So this. Then they started locking down and cutting off what's happening and then going to the supply chain.
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And then in response to what we were seeing, what they were seeing on the Lesers ledger side, Trezor decided to start cutting some of the suppliers. Because they use the same suppliers, the supply chain is somewhat shared. So it caused a disruption and ripple effect on the hardware wallet side. To the point Zach xpt, he sent a message and he said, well, you're really safer just by having it on a isolated phone, a standby phone.
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People said, well, that sounds like a good idea. We don't think that's a bad idea. However, not a day later, it was announced. It was found before this, but not a day later was announced the P7 Dark Sword malware attack, which is a malware, is that it's something intended to attack, for some reason, malware that gets access and it's targeting iPhone specifically. But it's any iOS device that's not been patched. You don't, you don't every updates.
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I actually was trying to do an update the other day on one of my iOS devices and it failed. It wouldn't actually update.
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So that's a different situation I got to get solved where I have to do maybe a reset or something. So this may be something where your device could not update. So you want to check this if you're an iOS user, iPhone or otherwise, because that's what it targets now. It's. I would argue this is rare to hit people because in order for it to work, it's actually a very. I don't want to say scary, but it's a very subtle type of breach. If you hit certain sites, the site actually is able to deploy and run code, and the code that's running is able to compromise your device. And once it's compromised, it's phoning home to a remote server. But what it's actually doing is it's kind of like a rudimentary. I don't want to say AI, but it's a rudimentary program that calls back home and says, tell me what to do. What's your command?
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The remote server says, and there's a list of these commands, but it says, you know, for example, check the photos. And it can read your photos and say, download the photos, send them somewhere, or get your crypto wallet, get the private keys. It can do these. It executes the command that's been given after it calls back to the remote server. So it's actually, again, subtle in how it works, because it's not like you install an app to do it or something that you would install. It's just browsing websites now, the sites. The only way that something like this could feasibly hit you is if you hit sketchy sites, because they could have embedded it into like, say, an ad or something under the hood. Sometimes you'll hit a site.
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I've seen this. Sometimes you'll hit a site and behind the scenes, it's redirecting you, redirecting you. And then it does this pop up, say, device, infected device, whatever.
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And you're, you know, we're downloading this now, or some weird something.
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Something like that. Or it could be a banner on a site. It could be one of these forums, like, say, let's Hope you don't hit 4chan. It could be any. Any source. You wouldn't know that one of these sites is. Is baked into the site that you try to visit.
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But you have a higher probability Based on the list, if it's a sketchy type site that you navigating to, I would even avoid like Temu, those kinds of.
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But the bottom line is it's not obvious.
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It's not like you hit yahoo.com and get hit or something. This would be something where you knowingly hit some sketchy, something somebody told you to go, or it's a compromise site that you didn't know was compromised. Or it's an ad of some kind where it's baked in there. You wouldn't know and you wouldn't know your device is compromised. If you reboot the device, then it washes it. It's not. It only lasts within the active session.
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So mine, the interesting thing with mine, I'm kind of insulated because my device tends to run out of battery pretty religiously, which reboots it obviously.
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So mine's constantly being. So that's. That's a mitigation. If you're one that reboots your device all the time, you mitigate it. I'm just sharing the message that this is out there because if you are an iOS user, make sure you are getting the updates. Make sure it can update. You're not able to update. You might need to take it into the Apple Store or some mitigation maybe as simple as a reset, which is a full reset under settings. Some way to make sure you're getting patched up to the latest version of the software to stay safe from the P7 dark star. So this flew in the face though of what Zach SBT said, which is it's just get a dedicated phone and then you're all good. But then this comes out of. This is in the wild. So if you were to do that, it truly needs to be isolated. As I was talking about the beginning.
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Don't do it on a commingle device. Don't do it on a device where you're doing a bunch of different things. Don't do it on a device where you're doing business banking. Like my. The device I have that's iOS. I do have an iPhone, but it's really for testing. I don't use it as a day to day device. I have a tablet, iPad, but I don't use it for banking. I don't use it for anything serious. It's just for me to kind of browse around and mostly and listen to like shows or that kind of thing.
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That's it. So be careful. And I'm sharing that message because I don't think other YouTubers are doing it because they're too busy trying to sell you garbage. But I figured I would try to share what I can with my platform to hopefully keep people safe along. This is. It's getting. It's getting really nervous for people. The hardware, wallets, you can't really trust them. The iOS devices, you can't really trust them. We had the Android deal not long ago. The only thing you're really safe on is computers. Ironically, in close. I'm going to close out with my. I mentioned I was going to talk about garbage at the tail of the episode because I think it's important that I do so just I want to try to help people best I can.
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Are you the kind of person who watches a project and is hopeful and optimistic it's going to turn into something if you're one of those people, let's say you were in Shib. Let's say you're in Saitama. Let's say you're a Kuma in you. Let's say you're in Safe Food. Let's say you're in Shinja. Let's say you're in Baby Doge. You're one of those that watches the garbage and you're optimistic. You're just naively optimistic it's turned into something. Or maybe you were involting you at one point and then you saw that it rug pulled and then they launched another one and you see shillers that are shilling the new version. That's going to be better than the old, even though the old rug pulled. If you're one of those that remains hopeful and optimistic, I don't discourage you to be hopeful and optimistic. But I will tell you that the diverse portfolio is the best way to stay insulated from some of the garbage that's out there. You should not be dumping a whole bunch of stuff into one project to the point that it pisses you off or frustrates you or makes you sad. You should always have your stuff in multiple different things, not just crypto. If you're going to do it, just make sure it's in safe projects that you know are not going to rip you off. You know, bitcoin can't rip you off by the nature of how it's built. So you should always have a stack in there if you're going to be in crypto. But some people, because of maybe Shillers and I'll talk about this in a second, they're just going off into whatever garbage project that's out there and they're trying to roll dice again on what they see. I'm not begrudging your right to do that, but I would recommend that you don't do that on a consistent basis because I don't think it's a good idea.
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If you could choose to do it, it's up to you. I just don't think it's a good idea.
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I noticed on the channel I'm starting not just one, I'm starting to see a pattern of people that are going back to the YouTubers and trying to hold them accountable because of things that the YouTuber said or the things the YouTubers doing. And there's less, I'll say, propensity for people just to jump into something because the Shiller told them to do it.
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Here's the comment and I share this because it's inspirational and I'd like you to take inspiration for what this person did. Then I'll give you the background about what's going on because I think it's important to think of it in reverse.
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User David Beerbeart2637 YouTube says quote I noticed you covered the date and time of the British flag. Is there a reason for that? Could it be because you were previously caught reposting the same trades and withdrawal screenshots? Don't underestimate the people who pay attention and check in regularly. They're not as gullible as you seem to think. And some of us notice a lot more than you realize. Stop.
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What this person is referring to is that the Shiller in question, they're talking about. There's a number of projects out there and they, they come and go where they talk about returns. You put this much money in there and you're going to get 10x your return or unreasonable percentages or some return that they're trying to talk about. There's tons of these.
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Cryptonomy was 1, dexrp was 1, and so on. There's tons of these out there.
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And the, the, the Shiller, they'll have some sort of a ad or even live, but they'll have some sort of ad and they'll show. Here's my bag, here's how much I made, here's how much I withdrew to try to convince you that it's legitimate.
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What this person is talking about is that they're noticing it's basically the same ad, meaning they're not getting, you know, $10,000 every week or any. That it's just the same regurgitated ad. That's because it's an ad.
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Ads do that. They do that all the time.
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And what he's calling out is, I see it's the same data. You're not really showing me that you're repeatedly doing it. So you're. And why are you coming at the timestamp? Because we know it's the same ad.
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My feedback for you for anything. If you see any YouTuber that's covering any specific product or project and they're telling you about something that it's allegedly going to do, and they're showing you something that seems unrealistic, the pattern is important, right?
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But you also need to pay attention to what's the motivation.
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If somebody could make $5,000 on some tool, why would they tell you about it?
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Think about it. If they could make $5,000, $10,000 and a 10x is something, why would they tell you? Why wouldn't they just keep stacking the money on their own?
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The game that is, is to tell other people to get into something, usually because there's some sort of a, like drip token.
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There's some sort of a structure that says.
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And it's the term for it is referrals. But there's some sort of a structure that says we will multiply your investment based on the number of people that also get in.
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They're not directly telling you to invest X, they're telling you as a referral. Yes, I get a referral if you use my code. And then for the referral, they get a multiplier for whatever it is they put in. So there's an incentive for them to do it, and then there's an incentive for you to do it.
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Almost every project does this.
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The reason it becomes a problem is when you look at the what's happening, you're being presented something with an unrealistic return.
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You know, if it was really that easy, they wouldn't tell you about it.
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So I want you to be thinking about motivations. When you're looking at that stuff. Look at motivations. What's the motivation? What's your reason for trying to share this information? Why don't you keep it to yourself?
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I'm not suggesting that they're malicious. I'm saying that you should be thoughtful about why they're saying what they're saying, why they're doing what they're doing. Because there's no logical reason that they should be trying to help you make thousands of dollars. It doesn't benefit them for you to get into that thing, especially not when, if they could do that themselves, they would just do it.
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You might think, well, aren't people. Don't people have the best of intentions?
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It depends on what the subject matter is.
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When we're talking money, I would argue people don't have the best of intentions. When we're talking significant amounts of money, I should say I don't think they're the best of intentions. No. You've heard me talk about precious metals in the past. Have you listened for a While at CryptoTalk FM?
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I said when silver was about to run up, before it ran up, I said, I think there's something here. I said, there's something with copper. I said, I do have precious metals. I said I would stay away from platinum, palladium for now because I think they're grossly overpriced. Well, they went down because mine is not to tell you you're going to make thousands of dollars off anything. I can't know that. They can't know that. But I can see an opportunity that seems to be on the horizon. Then I can tell you what my stance is about that opportunity. And then you have to decide if it makes sense for you. It may not. It may be something where just doesn't make sense.
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I think in their.
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And it's all of them. It's not anyone specific. It's all of them. I think in their stance, they're compensated to bring in numbers, they're compensated to bring in referrals, they're compensated to bring in customers as part of the compensation. I think they do a decently good job to try to tell you what they're told to tell you.
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They're assuming you're going to not just blindly do what they say and that you're going to follow your own breadcrumbs to determine whether it makes sense for you.
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But they know ultimately if they built trust, which is governed by the followers and repeat listeners, etcetera, that you're likely going to do it simply because they say so. And I'm calling out that. I think that paradigm has shifted. Many of the people that we saw before are not anywhere near as active as they once were. You know, many of the people that we saw because a lot of the projects are not what they used to be, which is good. I think it's cleaning up the business a little bit.
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But I would argue there are still people out there that listen to.
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I don't want to say garbage channels because that's not fair, but I would say channels that have. That don't necessarily have your best interest at heart.
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And because you listen to them, it gives you, it puts a bad eye on the business and it, it makes you disenfranchised.
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So when somebody like myself's out there, that's just neutral in the middle. It's harder admittedly for me to reach those people.
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I can't because I'm not follow likes, because I don't, because it, I just put it out and say it's if somebody listens, they'll listen. And I wait for time to pass to be proven correct and use that for credibility because I'm old school that way. That's how it used to be.
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As you know, in the Cronkite type era, I'm just going off, I'm going to say it and be proven right and I expect you to come back now. We're in a fast paced world, Crypto's fast paced, the finances of Aspace, don't even get me started on the tax situation that I've got.
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Everything's faster paced, which doesn't give you the opportunity to slow down and process what's happening.
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So you're looking for something, you don't have the patience, frankly, or the appetite to just slow down and process it. And they know that. Everybody knows that, marketers know that, the YouTubers know that, TV knows that, the government knows that, everything knows. You don't have the patience anymore to do what you really should do in order to make smarter decisions. And it so happened. I mean, it took me to get to my, I would say early 40s before I recognized what was happening. Because when I was traveling all the time, it was fast paced, I was going flights and all this when, why I know I can't stand, I can't stand that. Why I can't get the information I need in order to do stuff correctly. And the moment I slowed down that passage, everything got easier again. The tax things didn't problem, all of which is to say is a simple call to action for you.
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Recognize when that's happening to you. Recognize when you're being pushed at a faster pace than what makes sense for you to be able to process what's happening. Recognize when you're listening to youtubers that tell you different things, process not just what they say, but why they say it, where they're coming from. And ask yourself the question, if it were really that easy to make thousands of dollars, why would they tell me about it?
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They will do it. I would say arguably all of them do a good job convincing you that they care about you. I honestly don't Think that they don't care. But I also understand if you're paid to do a job, you're paid to do a job. And that's what it is for them. It's a job. Like, I'm telling you this. You know, I'm telling the truth. It's a job for them. It's not a job for me. I do it because I want to. I have a job that rhymes. I make my money outside. That's why I don't run ads. That's why I don't shill products. That's why I don't need to, because I make money outside of this.
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I started the podcast when Covid was hitting, and I was in a down spot where I didn't have a client.
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And I figured, let's start this up with the intent of being profited. But I got to a point where I was able to sign the client. Same client I have now. I've had this client for years. Same client I have now. And then I got a second one, and I was recovering financially. And then I decided as long as I'm able to keep the stuff outside, I'm not going to monetize the show. If people want a tip, I mentioned I have a tip jar. I don't ever talk about it because it's.
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I thought about it, maybe I'll promote it, but I. It feels weird to me. I'd rather just share the information, make it free. What the hell.
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And. And from a credibility perspective, I look at the numbers. I look at the stats. Not the numbers of listeners, but the numbers overall. How many shows talk cryptocurrency? How many shows are consistently putting content out? How many shows talk about the right topics? How many shows have come and gone? Many people that were at the top of the lists that just disappeared or they stopped recording?
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It's just it. It's podcasting. Yes, but it's also just crypto. Crypto's boring right now.
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Well, when I started the show, I was talking about certain products, but I was also doing swags. I was also doing analysis. I was doing some audits. I was doing news. I was doing a little bit of everything. And then I rebranded the show, and I kind of created my own blend of coverage that was not focused on. I was not focused on shilling or any of that. That's why I was able to get a couple of guests that were above board to talk on the show, which I thought was really good, like Mr. Segala.
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And I didn't broach. I didn't approach them, they approached me because I'm one of many. But I'm also, as a platform, I'm straight down the middle, straight line.
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If you see value in that type of coverage, spread the word. That's all I would say.
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Because, and you know, I think some people just aren't gonna listen because they're still trapped in that mind. They're still trapped in that bubble, the crypto bubble, and they're beyond help. We can't help them, we can't help everybody. That's why I don't aggressively promote, because I understand. I'm not going to chase anybody. It's out there for those that want to hear it. If you hear it, you see value and you think it would help people bring it up, see if they're willing to hear it, accept that they may not or why ever. And it is what it is. You benefit. They don't.
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And we'll get to a world at some point where everything gets easier across the board. I think my last bit, and this is just an FYI for people, please consider.
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Please consider, I would say 2028 at this point. Please consider what the future holds for the financial and the banking industry around crypto, but also not just crypto, Consider what it all means. Consider the increase in probability we're getting to a world where you will be restricted from your money. You, it'll be held back from you, it'll be restricted from you. You won't be able to spend it, you won't be able to access it. Consider what that entails.
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Consider strongly Goldbacks. Do some research on Goldbacks. I'm not selling them. I'd like you to research them and look into them. You might think they're strange, but I honestly believe we will get to a world where goldbacks will have some intrinsic value outside of regular fiat and outside of cryptocurrency for a store of value that has been increasing year over year. So look into it. I treat goalbacks as collectibles. I don't treat them as currency. But since they're collectibles, if they truly become scarce, the ones that I have, they become scarce. I'm looking at the long game. I'm looking at if gold spikes or these become truly collectible.
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It might be what I missed with the old transformers in the old days that I used to have that I could have made a mint.
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But they're also, in certain states, accepted as a form of currency for local stores.
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I encourage you to look into it. I'm not saying get them. I'M saying look into them and look at the price over time for them. Specifically not gold or goldbacks. Look at their value and price over time.
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See if it makes sense where I'm going with it.
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See if you can determine as a store of value, precious metals is a given, goldbacks is a secondary.
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Then join that, because I'm talking diverse portfolio. Join that amount of money that you need to do things that might be locked out from you.
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Physical metals that cannot be because they're in your possession custody of certain metals that might or might not be subject to that same lockout and whether or not the store of value of physical metals can provide you access to funds in a pinch. Pinch might be medical reasons. Pinch might be housing reasons. Pinch might be somebody needs, you know, something for the store or something.
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In other words, what I'm saying, I'm not trying to doomsday you or anything, but I am saying, do you. I'm asking a question.
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Do you have some other way to get access to money that's not going to put you in debt per se, but also cannot be restricted from you by any government entity?
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That's my question for you and it's something to really think about. Again, I'm not doomsday in you.
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Let's just say I've got a theory. Theory. Let's just say I've got something and it has to do with the personal experience I may share at some point.
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I have a theory. 2028 is going to be very revealing for certain people that are not prepared for what's coming.
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Sam.